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Aislinn and her Irish partner had been living in the UK for 12 years and enjoying all that London had to offer, however juggling two young children and two careers without family support was starting to take its toll. Aislinn was conscious that her Wellington based parents were getting older and none of their five children were close by to help out if and when they needed it. 

“We started asking ourselves what mattered most and evaluating where we wanted to be. I had been out of the country for more than a decade and my partner had never lived in New Zealand so it was a big decision to move home, but ultimately it came down to what’s important. Having my kids being able to spend time with their grandparents and build that relationship with them is really special, it’s time you don’t get back, and at the end of the day I think your family will always come out on top.” 

Since Aislinn’s partner didn’t have a New Zealand passport the couple had to apply for a visa and were warned it could take up to 13 months to process, thinking they would apply and get that underway while they sorted other things out made Aislinn initially feel like she was really organised, until they found themselves racing against the clock.

“We were notified that the visa had been accepted and processed in just seven weeks after we applied, which was great, until we found out that we had to land in New Zealand by September to keep it valid. All of a sudden we had to move quite quickly, we had a flat we wanted to sell and we had to pack everything up – living somewhere for 12 years you don’t realise how much stuff you have accumulated, we also both had to find jobs and sort the kids out, I was so focused on the admin I never stopped to think about actually arriving in Wellington.” 

Aislinn applied for a job as the General Manager for the New Zealand String Quartet, and after interviewing online, the family was in the car on the way to the airport when she got the call she had been successful. 

“It was really nice to know I had something lined up, Wellington has such a great arts and culture scene so I didn’t see the move as problematic for my career. Obviously this is a smaller organisation than ones I had been working in overseas, but I actually like that. When you’re working with a string quartet, by its very nature, it’s a very agile organisation. We can jump at opportunities. We can do more experimental things rather than, you know, working with an orchestra, where you need a concert hall and a lot more planning time because you’ve got so many more people to move. Because of New Zealand being the size that it is, and Wellington being the size that it is, I very quickly got to know all the other people working in the same industry and everyone kind of has each other’s backs. If you have an idea and you want to make something happen you talk to a few people and all of a sudden things are moving really fast.” 

Since moving back to the capital the family have been embracing all the city has to offer and Aislinn says Wellington is a fantastic place, especially if you have a young family. 

“Wellington is really beautiful, and coming from the UK I have noticed a huge change in the amount of wildlife. We are living up in the hills of Brooklyn so we can see the harbour and we are really close to Wellington Zoo and near the boundary of Zealandia. The native birds are just everywhere. We’ve got a resident tūī right by our letterbox that you can chat with when you come in, we call him Stuey the tūī, and we’ve got kākā flying all around. The kids love visiting various beaches and Te Papa. Wellington has a really great buzz to it, there is always something to do and a lot of it is free. We can’t wait till they get a bit older and we can do some of the amazing bush walks and other activities that are right on our doorstep.”

“The other thing I have really noticed is the rise of the Te Ao Māori and how readily New Zealand is embracing it. Our kids are coming home with much more understanding at three than I ever had in my 18 years of growing up here. They are already counting in Māori and singing songs and I love that that is part of their every day.” 

Her advice to others would be to not sweat the small stuff. Despite the family moving home on a much faster time frame than they had initially intended, Aislinn says there were lots of things that fell into place once they landed in Wellington. 

“Moving can be a really anxious time and there are all these questions that you ask yourself or things you worry about, but what we found was that New Zealand is such a friendly and open place that things sorted themselves out quite quickly once we were on the ground. Things like getting a drivers licence was much more straightforward compared to the UK and I found building up professional networks quite easy which was great. There were of course stressful elements like not being able to sell the London flat and having to temporarily move in with my parents while we found somewhere to rent, but overall it wasn’t as bad as you start to think it might be.”

Aislinn and her partner, who’s a social worker, both started work quite quickly and that combined with the kids’ social lives has meant they have been able to settle into life in the capital fairly easily. 

“We have a couple of good friends who have also moved back from the UK and whose kids go to Kindy with ours. There are three families who are all going through the same journey together which is nice. It’s good to be able to share stories about the UK and also have people who really understand what this process is like.”

A year on Aislinn says the family are loving their new lifestyle and, now that they are settled she can’t imagine getting on a plane and going back, not even for a visit at this stage. 

“Now that we’re here, if we’re going to have a holiday I just really want to explore Wellington and the rest of New Zealand, there is so much I haven’t seen. I just want to go on a lot of nice domestic holidays. It’s just so great to have this lifestyle, when I collect the kids from Kindy and they’re covered head to toe in paint and sand with bare feet, I can’t help thinking this was such a good decision. The kids have a healthier, happier lifestyle in Wellington and knowing that they are happy is really the most important thing.”

This content was produced in partnership with Wellington NZ. Their ‘Esc to Wellington‘ campaign is inviting skilled people to Wellington Te Upoko o Te Ika, as a destination to work, live, and thrive.

A return to New Zealand had always been on the cards for Sarah and her husband, and after Covid they started thinking about returning to be closer to friends and family.

“Once borders reopened we came back from the UK for a holiday and had a look at schools and houses, then my husband was offered a voluntary redundancy package and suddenly, it felt like the universe was pointing us towards a new chapter.”

While her husband finished up work in the UK, Sarah returned home to Wellington with her two boys in time for the start of the new school year. While she waited for her nursing registration to come through, she had time to settle her kids into school and find a job.

“I’m a paediatric nurse, but I’ve gone back to basics and started back in children’s surgical. I’ve had to hit the ground running, and go back to things like shift work but now that my foot is in the door the opportunities are opening up and people are like, Oh, what about this? I’m already moving across to an outpatients maternity cover role, which uses more of my skills and experience as a community nurse in the UK.”

For Kiwi who have been offshore for a long time, returning home often triggers a process of self-discovery and adaptation and Sarah admits her and her husband have found it harder to put down roots compared to her two boys, who have taken to life in Wellington with gusto. 

“My boys have settled in so well. They have more freedom here than they did in the UK. I’m happy for my eldest to go to the football in town and get an Uber home, and I wouldn’t probably wouldn’t have let him do that where we lived before. The both love going down to the waterfront to the ASB Basketball stadium or just hiring an electric scooter and riding up and down. My youngest is quite a lover of sea life, and to have such easy access to beaches is great. The marine life is amazing in this city, we can see whales and dolphins out our window, to have that on your doorstep is pretty special.”

“We have been here for 7 months and I don’t feel like I have started to put down roots yet, but anywhere we moved would have been the same, you can’t expect to adjust to a place overnight. I left at 23, and I’m now 49 so what I want has changed, but I still love Wellington.”

“It’s great to be closer to my family, especially my parents, that is time you can’t get back. Wellington’s weather has been nothing like the winters I remember in my childhood, it’s been amazing this winter. Wellington is a beautiful city with lots of greenery and you don’t necessarily have to pay to do things here. The city also made a massive effort with the FIFA World Cup which was awesome to see.”

The other thing Sarah appreciates about her new life is the change of pace and the ability to find peace and beauty in her childhood home town.

“Alongside family, a change of lifestyle was a big motivator for us to return. We get an incredible view from our house, and even when I am having a really tough day I can come home and look at this view and think yep, this is worth it. You can always find your little piece of peace and quiet in Wellington and that wasn’t something I could ever say living in the UK. There is always the option to get a coffee, sit on a bench and watch dolphins, that’s really special when you think about it.” 

Sarah’s experience offers valuable insights to those contemplating a similar journey and highlights, Sarah says it’s important for those thinking about returning to do some research before moving .

“Be really, really realistic about why you’re coming back. If you’ve got family here, then it does make life so much easier. After 26 years, I didn’t exist in New Zealand, no one could find my NHI number, I couldn’t open an electricity account because I didn’t have a credit history, I couldn’t rent a house because I didn’t have a credit history or a job. So definitely do your research, come back and visit, and talk to people before you make that final decision.”

Returning home after nearly three decades offshore has highlighted to Sarah how important it is for Kiwi to travel, but also to bring their ideas and perspectives back home again. She feels the great Kiwi OE has been somewhat affected by Covid and hopes that people, especially young people will resume their passion for travel now that borders are open. 

“When I left in my early 20’s it felt like everyone went to the UK for a few years, I think for a country like New Zealand it’s really important that people go offshore, see the big wide world and then come home and bring those global views and experiences with them. I feel like Kiwi are really good at bringing those ideas back home and making them our own.”

This content was produced in partnership with Wellington NZ. Their ‘Esc to Wellington‘ campaign is inviting skilled people to Wellington Te Upoko o Te Ika, as a destination to work, live, and thrive.

Peter also spoke about his next expedition – a thought leadership journey to Antarctica in March 2024, and how Kiwi and join him and Sir Graham Henry on this voyage to discuss some of the big global issues facing our planet. Listen to the full webinar below and discover how you can be part of the expedition here.

Alex and his partner had been in Auckland for around 6 months when the pandemic first hit, Alex was working in Auckland for Kiwi company Icebreaker and he and his wife were enjoying the city’s improv theater community. Things were going well and only got better when the couple celebrated the birth of their first child – a baby boy. 

But life took an unexpected turn when Alex faced redundancy at Icebreaker due to the company’s relocation to Switzerland. Undeterred, he and his wife decided to stay in New Zealand and seek new opportunities, Alex says they were lucky that the gamble paid off. 

“When we got the news from Icebreaker there was COVID everywhere in Europe, but none in New Zealand, I had a two weeks old baby and my wife and I thought well there is nothing for us in Switzerland outside of work, we don’t have family or friends there and we can’t speak German, and at that point travel was really hard. We were happy in New Zealand and we decided that we couldn’t stop our New Zealand adventure just yet.”

Alex only had a short time to find another job as the couple’s visa relied on it, a time he admits was quite stressful. He connected with the CEO of Kathmandu on Linkedin and explained his predicament and his qualifications and was lucky enough the company were looking for someone just like him. 

“Kathmandu had the ambition to expand outside of New Zealand and Australia, but they needed someone with more expertise in these offshore markets and because that was my background things worked out well.” 

The couple moved to Christchurch and bought a house and now two years on, call the city their home. Alex is a keen surfer and loves the mix of lifestyle and business that the city provides and his son is growing up a proper Kiwi kid, and speaks a mix of English, French and Māori.

“We’re walking distance to the beach, you know we really are living the dream, my wife loves it here and so does my son. Sumner is a really beautiful place and we just feel really lucky. There’s a great sense of community here. People are very friendly. They’re always willing to give you a hand.” 

After helping Kathmandu to strategically launch in Europe, Canada and Japan, Alex’s role wound up as the local teams expanded and took over the operations. After this 2nd redundancy, he had the opportunity to work for another company in Auckland but the couple wanted to stay down south and so Alex has decided to try and give back to Kiwi businesses by using his offshore knowledge to start his own consulting company.  

“I’m hoping to be able to help either New Zealand businesses that want to export or help brands from overseas who want to come to New Zealand. I want to focus on assisting enterprises in growing while maintaining a positive impact on the planet and people. My goal is to help businesses to drive better businesses.”

Not content with just helping businesses, Alex is also planning to donate 1% of his revenue to New Zealand charities, supporting causes close to his heart and giving back to the community that welcomed him with open arms.

Throughout his time in New Zealand, Alex has been inspired by the country’s commitment to environmental sustainability and social responsibility and says he admires New Zealand’s efforts to protect its natural wonders, with nearly 40% of New Zealand’s land area designated as conservation land.

“New Zealand is a country that really embraces nature, and that was something that we were immediately drawn to. I love how there is a real focus here on protecting the planet.”

Alex’s professional journey has also allowed him to collaborate with indigenous Māori businesses, further deepening his appreciation for New Zealand’s rich cultural heritage. He says both him and his wife admire the Māori principles of Kaitiakitanga (guardianship) and manaakitanga (hospitality), which reflected a deep respect for the land and its people.

Despite the challenges posed by the pandemic and changes in jobs,  Alex says his family has never regretted the decision to move to New Zealand. He believes that resilience and adaptability are essential traits for anyone, especially during uncertain times.

“Resilience is important for both life and businesses. If you are resilient and open to adapting, you can find opportunities anywhere. Our family considers ourselves really privileged to be able to live here and we hope that we can give back to a country which has welcomed us so readily.”

Stephen He, Shanghai

How long have you lived offshore? More than 15 years

What do you love most about Shanghai? It’s a mega cosmopolitan city full of energy and opportunity, as well as a blend of oriental and western culture with heaps of good cafés, bars and restaurants and super easy access for delivery.

If someone was coming to visit the area what are two places you would recommend them
visiting and why? If you wish to capture the rhythm of the urban city, Lujiazui will be on my list. You can admire the modern skyscraper along Binjiang Ave as well as various buildings of different architectural styles across the River. Another way to experience the unique lifestyle is to take a stroll along the old streets in Shanghai’s French concession area with leafy plants growing on both sides of most streets.

What’s the best thing about being a Kiwi offshore? Developing a global network of contacts both business and socially, China signs pacts with “friend and partner” of New Zealand, you will feel most welcomed here.

What do you miss the most about New Zealand? Most of the outdoor sports, beaches, authentic fish and chips and mince pie….

What advice would you give to your pre-offshore self/What would you have liked someone to tell you before you travelled? Do some homework before taking any action. Once you hit the road, try to blend yourself into the local community, and learn some local dialect.

How do you remind yourself of home on days when you miss New Zealand? Meeting up for a beer with Kiwi’s watching AB and the Black Caps.

John Gao, Ningbo (and Wellington)

How long have you lived offshore? 3 years plus, since covid broke out.

What do you love most about your current home? Convenient and great environment.

If someone was coming to visit the area what are two places you would recommend them
visiting and why? Ningbo Bang Museum: You will be amazed how much people from Ningbo have achieved. In the early morning visit the area around Dongqian Lake: There are nice cycling tracks and tramping tracks. The scenery will be like a nice painting.

What’s the best thing about being a Kiwi offshore? How big the world is, and how great New Zealand is.

What do you miss the most about New Zealand? Beef and friends.

What advice would you give to your pre-offshore self/What would you have liked someone to tell you before you travelled? Learn some Chinese before leaving NZ.

How do you remind yourself of home on days when you miss New Zealand? Catch up with Kiwis I can find in Ningbo, have some kiwi food.

Christiana Zhu, Shanghai, China

How long have you lived offshore? 9 years. 8 in Beijing, 1 in Shanghai.

What do you love most about your current home? The safety and convenience of everyday life. Beijing and Shanghai are two of the safest cities in the world. There’s very little petty crime and I’ve never felt unsafe on the streets, even as a female walking through hutong alleyways late at night. The proliferation of e-services also makes life very convenient. From grocery shopping to managing chores like household maintenance and postage, and even self pampering spa services, you can easily book anything with a click of a button and everything comes to you. With e-cash being king in China, I’ve also not had to carry a wallet for years!

If someone was coming to visit the area what are two places you would recommend them
visiting and why? A hypermarket like Hema or an international brand retail outlet like IKEA, it’s a quick way to get a feeling of what everyday life is like for the middle class. When you compare the brands, product selections, and product formats to what things are like at home you can get good insights on cultural differences and similarities. If you are visiting Beijing – Ritan park in the morning or around sunset. This is when the retired folks come out to exercise and socialise. You will find interesting pursuits such as taichi, whip cracking, and saxophone practice. The content may be exotic, but the joy and passion with which they practise their hobbies is something that is easy to connect with on a base human level and give fresh perspectives on life.

What’s the best thing about being a Kiwi offshore? The community of awesome Kiwis doing incredible things. It almost sounds silly that one thing I love doing outside of NZ is finding other Kiwis, but I think because of our creative and adventurous spirit, Kiwi expats tend to get involved in some really cool projects, especially when we might not have the same platforms available back home. Connecting with these awesome people at local kiwi drinks is one of the true highlights of expat life.

What do you miss the most about New Zealand? Being able to head off into the mountains every weekend. NZ’s access to nature is second to none. I lived in Queenstown before coming to China, so I was definitely spoiled in that regard.

What advice would you give to your pre-offshore self/What would you have liked someone to tell you before you travelled? Make sure you remember to top up your NZ phone number every year, or you’ll lose it!

How do you remind yourself of home on days when you miss New Zealand? Marmite on toast!

Sarah and Steve were first introduced to each other by friends who knew they would hit it off because they were both curious and loved bringing people together to start a conversation. After meeting, the duo knew their shared passions had the beginnings of a business, and Sarah says they wanted to create something that was impact rather than profit driven. 

“We started Wonder and Wander seven years ago and we kind of approached it with a bit of patience. We both had experience in innovation, human-centred design, travel and events and we knew we wanted a company which would bring people together to solve problems in a different way, but creating a company that was more about impact and purpose rather than profit, was at the time, not the norm, so we had to build things slowly.”

The couple spent a lot of time defining the values of the business and being inspired by the sustainable development goals of some of the companies they were working with within their current roles. It was also important for them to focus on raising their blended family of five young children. 

As the company grew so did people’s perceptions. Steve says these days impact driven businesses make a lot more sense to investors and clients alike. 

“We believe that travel can be a catalyst for change. Whether it’s walking around Tasmania and gaining new perspectives or embarking on transformative experiences, travel has the power to get you away from your day-to-day routine and create a new perspective, and when you bring the right people together this can be really powerful.”

The couple’s dedication to creating purpose-led experiences caught the attention of big corporations like Australia’s Commonwealth Bank and Energy companies AGL and Energy Australia and now the Kiwi arm of their business is catching on with companies here as well. 

Steve says the rise in interest comes mainly from the fact that Wander and Wonder doesn’t just talk about changing perceptions and thinking, it creates experiences that back that up. 

“We take people through these experiences that create real ‘a-ha’ moments. We’re not asking people to completely change their lives or give up everything they know, instead, we’re inviting them to explore and unlearn fixed ways of thinking and adopt a ‘dragonfly’ mindset – nimble and agile, capable of changing flight mid-air.”

While some might see the impact as a grandiose concept, the Pirie-Nallys believe it can manifest in various ways, from small incremental shifts in thinking to profound transformations. Sarah says many people think of impact as an overnight revolution when in fact most of the time change starts small and can come from something as simple as a single conversation. 

As the company expands the couple are looking to expand their impact even further. Next March, they plan to lead an extraordinary stewardship expedition to Antarctica, an opportunity for travellers to engage with the challenges of climate change and conservation firsthand.

“The trip to Antarctica is a unique experience to bring together thought leaders and change-makers from across Australia and New Zealand together with some incredible expedition leaders like Peter Hilary and Sir Graham Henry and get all these people on a boat and facilitate some incredible conversations around climate change and allow these business leaders to share their ideas and create a sense of connection to what is possible. We want people to have richer conversations that ripple back into their communities, countries, and the world.”

Sarah says issues like climate change can seem too big to tackle, but being in a place where you can see first hand the effects something like this is having can have a transformative effect on people.

“I think there is a lot of fear around a conversation around climate change, and people don’t really want to talk about what it could mean, can I still travel? Can we ship things across the world? Can I drive to work – there is a lot of unknowns. The curious part of my mind goes to, well, what’s the problem we’re actually trying to solve? And ultimately at the end of the day, that problem is how do we ensure the survival of our species and the survival of our planet? Those two things don’t need to be solved with a knee jerk reaction, instead, we need a whole lot of innovative solutions, and so rather than never jumping on a plane again or selling your car it’s actually about connecting with ideas and people around the world to come up with more innovative solutions.”

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